Beth Sarim

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  Jehovah's Witness' bid to be excluded from abuse inquiry dismissed

  by Tahoe in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  link to article.

  a legal bid by the jehovah's witness church to get out of being part of the royal commission of inquiry into abuse in care has been dismissed by the high court in wellington.. after nearly three years of behind-the-scenes legal wrangling to avoid scrutiny from the inquiry, the church applied for a judicial review in june.. at a hearing, held earlier this month it argued it was beyond the inquiry's scope because it did not operate institutions that cared for children or vulnerable people and the inquiry had uncovered no evidence of abuse in that context.. lawyers representing the inquiry argued that jehovah's witness elders - equivalent to ministers or pastors - exercised a level of control over the congregation that allowed them access to children.. the inquiry informed abuse survivors who gave evidence to the inquiry in relation to the jehovah's witnesses of the news this afternoon.. "we have received advice from the high court that none of the causes of action brought by the jehovah's witnesses has succeeded and the application for judicial review has been dismissed.

  the judge's reasons are not yet available, but are expected in the near future," the email to survivors, seen by rnz, said.. the church was the only faith-based institution in the country to legally challenge its involvement in the inquiry, although it had attempted to challenge its status in other countries where similar inquiries have also been carried out.. the inquiry said, in a statement, that the dismissal "means the royal commission can continue to investigate the jehovah's witnesses, and all other faiths, in accordance with the pastoral care approach we have been applying since 2019".. "reasons for the high court's judgment are not yet available but are expected in the near future.

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  Beth Sarim

  Here is where the Borg wil likely ramp-up its pandering for money & fear mongering.

  In light of these New Zealand results.
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  How frequent is this among Jehovah's Witnesses

  by vienne in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my grandmother, an immigrant from austria, was.

  two of my aunts, their husbands, both elders, various cousins and two of my sisters are witnesses.

  so is my grand uncle.

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  Beth Sarim

  LHG,,thats because the Borg IS,,in fact its worst enemy.

  And the followers are its victims.
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  Six minute video of WTBT$ begging for money, now on JWBorg website

  by EasyPrompt in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  six minute video of wtbt$ begging for money, now on jwborg website.

  https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/accomplishministry/pub-mwbv_202311_1_video.

  "thank you for 'setting something aside'" robert butler.

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  Beth Sarim

  They'll probably just blame the followers for not providing for themselves and reading too much into things.
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  How frequent is this among Jehovah's Witnesses

  by vienne in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my grandmother, an immigrant from austria, was.

  two of my aunts, their husbands, both elders, various cousins and two of my sisters are witnesses.

  so is my grand uncle.

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  Those on the outskirts of the congregation or Borg get little or none for attention,, because of being ill or infirm ..

  Unless,,, they are rich,,have wads of material a$$ets or both

  From the Mike and Kim channel a year or so back. Mikey eluded to an ""older"" woman in the congregation who became inactive,,not attending or whatever. She was wealthy apparently.

  The "brothers" sure didn't hesitate to keep in touch with her,,regularly. He related.
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  2023-10-17 and 2023-10-20 Letters!

  by Atlantis in

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  2. friends

  2023-10-17-legal seminar.

  page 1. https://imgbox.com/cm4qip9v .

  page 2. https://imgbox.com/rvnapwrq .

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  Beth Sarim

  No mention of mental health?

  Nah. That doesn't go into consideration.
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  Looking for those with legal expertise to work for free

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  an announcement to all congregations those with legal experience please come and work for free to cover up child abusers.. i mean what else would it be for?.

  the cheek of it.. so the direction was always don’t go for advanced education and careers but now they are looking for such ones to give if their time and education for free?.

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  ..... especially NOW with the internet at your fingertips 24/7.

  Mike & Kim,,Mike always says ""ignorance is a choice".

  Youtube videos galore.

  Testimonies all over the place how you can overcome such 'fear' tactics.

  There is information at your hands,,all the time to put those 'tactics',,,to bed!!
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  JWLITE

  by Teddnzo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  even elders can be part of the new jw lite brigade these days.

  they don’t need to go on door to door anymore and there is no requirement for anything really.. taking meeting parts is all dead easy you could turn up on the day with zero preparation because it’s all in the meeting workbook.. quarterly elders meetings are just old men having a good old natter just like old men do down the pub.. congregations could be likened to pubs or bars these days just without the drinks, those come at other times.. no need for territory maps, these almost went away with covid letter writing now they are extremely slow getting finished as those who still go door to door only do ten mins.. you could even voice your questions these days about things the gb say and then just say “we can’t be dogmatic we just don’t know”.

  i predict they will say this about 1914 soon..

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  This Borg as we know it will cease to exist the day the fear and guilt are removed.

  Thats the root of the Borgs power & control. Those 2 elements.
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  Looking for those with legal expertise to work for free

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  an announcement to all congregations those with legal experience please come and work for free to cover up child abusers.. i mean what else would it be for?.

  the cheek of it.. so the direction was always don’t go for advanced education and careers but now they are looking for such ones to give if their time and education for free?.

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  Beth Sarim

  Many have caved-in and listened to the Borg,,,when the Borg exploits 9/11,pandemics,,war outbreak & terrorist acts.

  They cave in go fleeing back to the Borg time and time again,,,,years go clocking by. Before you know,,,you're old,,no pension,,poor,, doing hard work

  The Borg exclaims "no apology"",,"no apology"" for people reading into things too much.
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  JWLITE

  by Teddnzo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  even elders can be part of the new jw lite brigade these days.

  they don’t need to go on door to door anymore and there is no requirement for anything really.. taking meeting parts is all dead easy you could turn up on the day with zero preparation because it’s all in the meeting workbook.. quarterly elders meetings are just old men having a good old natter just like old men do down the pub.. congregations could be likened to pubs or bars these days just without the drinks, those come at other times.. no need for territory maps, these almost went away with covid letter writing now they are extremely slow getting finished as those who still go door to door only do ten mins.. you could even voice your questions these days about things the gb say and then just say “we can’t be dogmatic we just don’t know”.

  i predict they will say this about 1914 soon..

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  Until the Borg changes its policies and becomes more Christian,,it is harmful and has to face head-on resistance.

  As nicolaou stated a few posts back.
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  TODAY is my 56th anniversary of GOING TO PRISON as a Jehovah's Witness Conscientious Objector

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what happened to jehovah’s witness young men and why did it happen?______in the 1960s men of draft age were called upon to either serve in the military (during the vietnam war) or to comply with the alternate service option: serving in a hospital or community in need.. non-jehovah’s witnesses were faced with only one refusal: military service.jw boys and young men were instructed (in private) to refuse the alternate civilian service as well.

  the superior authorities had made this exemption for people of conscience.the law was clear on this.

  if we worked in a hospital community we would be free to go about our witnessing ministry - if we double-refused: we would languish in prison.a no-brainer to them.

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  Beth Sarim

  No apology is necessary,,if you watch GG4GB latest video.

  I mean come on what would you expect?

  The Borg just doubles down and gets more stubborn.